Dave's Family History
John CARNEY
Abt 1861 - 1925 (64 years) Has 2 ancestors and 47 descendants in this family tree.-
Name John CARNEY [1] Birth Abt 1861 Manchester, Lancashire, England [2, 3, 4] Gender Male Census 5 Apr 1891 Salford, Lancashire, England [4] Age: 33y Address: 59 Ruby Street - Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Dyer
Living in same street as Mary Jane
Occupation 5 Apr 1891 Salford, Lancashire, England Dyer Age: 33y Census 31 Mar 1901 Salford, Lancashire, England [3] Age: 39y Address: 34 Jennings St very near West Craven St. Also near Taylorson Str - Relation to Head of House: Boarder (Son-in-law)
Married. General Labourer. Living with Mother-in-Law
Occupation 31 Mar 1901 Salford, Lancashire, England General Labourer Age: 39y Census 2 Apr 1911 Barton Upon Irwell, Lancashire, England [5] Age: 49y Address: 601 Sixth Street, Trafford Park - Labourer. Engineering Works
Married 19 Years
4 Children 3 Living, 1 Dead
Reference Number C 0016aP Death 9 Jan 1925 Stretford, Manchester, Lancashire, England [6, 7] Age: 63y Cause: Bronchitis Address: 12 Magdala Street, [53.46659885937793, -2.2654365363544695] - Engineer's Labourer
Son, William, present at the death. Same address
On Modern Maps: 53.46659885937793, -2.2654365363544695
Person ID I127 Simpson Last Modified 31 Jul 2022
Father John CARNEY, b. Bef 1845, Ireland d. Bef 1891 (Age < 46 years) Mother Unknown [CARNEY] Marriage Bef 1861 [8] Family ID F59 Group Sheet | Family Chart
Family Mary Jane GUINNANE, b. 29 Aug 1868, Salford, Lancashire, England d. 20 Oct 1914, Stretford, Manchester, Lancashire, England (Age 46 years) Marriage 27 Aug 1891 Salford, Lancashire, England [9, 10] Address: Mount Carmel R.C. Church - He is a Velvet Dyer
His address: 13 Hollingwood St., Salford
Her address: 8 Darley Street, Salford
Reference Number C 0036-C 0037 Children + 1. William CARNEY, b. 9 Sep 1892, Salford, Lancashire, England d. Jan 1963, Swinton, Lancashire, England (Age 70 years) + 2. John Leopold CARNEY, b. 19 May 1896, Salford, Lancashire, England d. 10 Dec 1918, Germany (Age 22 years) 3. Mary Agnes CARNEY, b. 25 Mar 1898, Salford, Lancashire, England d. 5 Feb 1900, Salford, Lancashire, England (Age 1 year) + 4. James CARNEY, b. 1 Jan 1905, Salford, Lancashire, England d. 30 Apr 1981, Manchester, Lancashire, England (Age 76 years) Family ID F36 Group Sheet | Family Chart Last Modified 13 Nov 2021
- Relation to Head of House: Lodger
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Event Map = Link to Google Earth
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Notes - Possibly in the Army, try John Carney, Private, 18th Kings Own Regt. aged 20
Possibly in Salford Barracks
[Probably refers to 1881 census - but unconfirmed]
1891 - Dyer (Census)
1891 - Velvet Dyer (Marr cert)
1896 - Dyer's Labourer (Leo's birth cert)
1905 - General Labourer [James' Birth Certificate]
Marriage Certificate gives 29.08.1891, Parish register gives 27.08.1891
Marriage Witnesses: John Murphy & Elizabeth Guinnane
btw 19 May 1896 and 1901 lived at 34 Jennings St., Salford
Jennings St very near West Craven St. Also near Taylorson Street.
1903 41 West Craven St., Salford, Lancashire
[Aug 2008 - Source?]
- Possibly in the Army, try John Carney, Private, 18th Kings Own Regt. aged 20
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Sources - [S39] Marriage Cert - Carney, James - C 029.
Father's middle name given as Charles, but this doesn't appear on James' birth cert. nor on John's marriage cert. - [S3242] BMD - Birth Index, 4 May 2007.
No definitive match GRO/BMD
Tried JAS 1861 Manchester 8D 227 Father: John
But father on certificate not John [04/05/07] - [S102] 1901 Census - RG 13/3735 F062 P37 - Guinnane, John, 1 Jan 1980.
- [S381] 1891 Census - RG 12/3225 F054 P06 - Carney, John, 1 Jan 1980.
- [S675] 1911 Census - RG 14/23638 SN088 - Carney, 1 Jan 1980.
- [S598] Death Cert - Carney, John C036, 27 Apr 2009, 1925 JFM Barton I 8C 785.
Map: 53.466109,-2.266129
Street no longer there (2013).
- [S39] Marriage Cert - Carney, James - C 029, 1 Jan 1980.
Deceased on James' Marriage Certificate - [S34] Calculated, 1 Jan 1980.
Based on son being born around 1861 - [S36] Marriage Cert - Carney, John - C 036, 18 Oct 2014.
- [S279] Marriage Cert - PR Carney, John - Transcript, 18 Oct 2014.
- [S39] Marriage Cert - Carney, James - C 029.