Dave's Family History
Emma Brown[1]
1865 - 1937 (72 years) Has no ancestors but 23 descendants in this family tree.-
Name Emma Brown [2, 3] Birth 14 May 1865 Kentish Town, London, England [4, 5, 6] Address: 8 Circus Road - Fact Flags: Preferred
Gender Female *AKA Emma ROBINSON [7] Census 3 Apr 1881 Upper Holloway, London, England [4, 8] Age: 15y Address: 1 Pemberton Terrace - Relation to Head of House: Servant
Housemaid
Occupation 3 Apr 1881 Upper Holloway, London, England Housemaid Age: 15y Census 5 Apr 1891 St Giles Cripplegate, London, England [9] Age: 24y Address: 174 High Holborn - Relation to Head of House: Wife
Census 31 Mar 1901 Acton, London, England [10] Age: 34y Address: 37 Stepne Road - Widow. Housekeeper. Living with cousin, George Robinson & his daughter.
She later married George so he may or may not be her cousin.
Occupation 31 Mar 1901 Acton, London, England Housekeeper Age: 34y Census 2 Apr 1911 Brentford, Middlesex, England [11] Age: 45y Address: 87 Goldsmith Avenue - Married 12 years, 1 child, still alive
(This relates to her current marriage to George Robinson)
Her two children from her first marriage are living with them.
Census 19 Jun 1921 Acton, London, England [12] Age: 56y 1m Address: 16 Church Road - Relation to Head of House: Wife
Reference Number BR 0932b Reference Number BR-J Death 4 Dec 1937 Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England [13, 14] Age: 72y Cause: Chronic Bronchitis - Was given this information: Informant: Phyllis M. Robinson Daughter 3 The Pantiles, Al l Saints Road, Peterborough.
Wife of George Robinson, Gas & Water Fitter (not widow...)
Fact Flags: Preferred
Person ID I4477 Simpson Last Modified 26 Oct 2024
Marriage 4 Nov 1850 Stratford, Bow, London, England [15] - He was a stonemason
Family ID F1820 Group Sheet | Family Chart
Family 1 David Jacobs, b. 6 Oct 1862, Brighton, Sussex, England d. 14 Jan 1899, Holborn, London, England (Age 36 years) Marriage 19 May 1887 Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada [17, 18, 19, 20] - Married as David Morris
Children 1. Philip Morris Jacobs, b. 14 Dec 1888, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada d. 24 May 1961, Wimborne, Dorset, England (Age 72 years) 2. Maurice Albert Jacobs, b. 1 Oct 1890, St Giles Cripplegate, London, England d. 14 Jan 1978, Littlehampton, Sussex, England (Age 87 years) 3. David Albert Jacobs, M.C., b. 29 Jan 1892, St Giles Cripplegate, London, England d. 17 Dec 1969, Loughborough, Leicestershire, England (Age 77 years) 4. Ellen Dorothy Jacobs, b. 17 Jun 1893, Holborn, London, England d. 9 Feb 1969, Reigate, Surrey, England (Age 75 years) Family ID F1440 Group Sheet | Family Chart Last Modified 22 Mar 2020
Family 2 George Robinson, b. Abt 1871, Littlehampton, Sussex, England Marriage 27 Dec 1911 Camden Town, London, England [21] Address: 10 College Place - Widow
Notes - From Roy Parker:
Cannot find a marriage for Emma and George at the right time.
There is one in Q4 1911 though, in St Pancras?
Family ID F1501 Group Sheet | Family Chart Last Modified 26 Oct 2024
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Notes - From Roy Parker:-
(Research):Letter from Lilian Jacobs says birthday was in May.
Age at marriage 19 May 1887 given as 22 - yob 1864 or 1865
Age at 1871 Census 6 - pob just Middlesex
Not living with family ( neither Arthur Brown brother nor p arents Harry and Jane Brown) at 1881 Census. She might hav e been a servant somewhere...
1881 Census RG11 Piece 0247 Folio 6 Page 6 has Emma Brown , age 15 born Gospel Oaks, Middx, working as Housemaid a t 1 Pemberton Terrace. Pemberton Terrace is in Upper Hollow ay, same as Bertram St where rest of Browns are registered . Gospel Oak is in Hampstead/Highgate area (overlaps Uppe r Holloway). Argues yob 1865, but age may have been given i n error by employer.
1891 Census has age 24 argues yob 1866 if birthday was in M ay
1901 census shows age at 31 March 1901 was 34, born in Hamp stead. yob would be 1866
1911 Census gives pob as Gospel Oak, age 45 in 1911
Death in Peterborough in 1937. Index entry for Emma Robinso n registered at Peterborough 4Q 1937 3b 239 aged 72. Certif icate confirms this is the right Emma Robinson (death regis tered by daughter Phyllis May). Letter from Lilian Jacob s says her birthday was in May. This would put birth in mi d-1865. Correct.
CRI refs found:
4Q1864 Hampstead 1A 547 - cert ordered 14 Feb 2005 - not th e right parents. Further, birthplace (Victoria Mews) was to o far from Gospel Oak to be the same Emma Brown as the on e in service at 1 Pemberton Terrace in 1881.
2Q1865 Pancras 1b 182
YES, this is the one - born in Kentish Town, next door to G ospel Oak and not far from other address at 22 Bertram St. , Islington
DOB 14 May 1865 confirms Lilian Jacobs comment and age give n on marriage certificate and death certificate.
Marriage to George Robinson not found in FreeBMD - 1911 cen sus says 12 years married - puts it just after David Jacobs ' death in Mar 1899, but may have preceded it if divorced . May have been common-law.
Assume still living together at Ellen's birth in 1893, bu t not by date of will in 1897
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Sources - [S2398] Roy Parker's GEDCOM.
Source for field: Multimedia ObjectSource for field: Multimedia ObjectSource for field: Custom IdSource for field: _UIDRecord updated from... - [S2278] Notes - Sandra Bonn, 5 May 2009.
- [S2398] Roy Parker's GEDCOM.
Source for field: GivenSource for field: Surname - [S2398] Roy Parker's GEDCOM, Bef 6 Nov 2019.
- [S3242] BMD - Birth Index, 18 Sep 2010, 1865 AMJ Pancras 1b 182.
Only Hampstead ref in the acceptable date range; Recorded 1 4 Feb 2005 [Roy Parker] - [S2307] 1901 Census - RG 13/1202 F09 P09 - Jacobs, David A, 18 Sep 2010.
Lilian Jacobs' letter says she died in 1938 aged 67. The first is more likely as she went to Canada in about 188 6 (age 20 more likely than 15 for the trip!) Death certificate gives age at 4 December 1937 as 72 - birth about 186 5 , is more or less consistent with 1901 census.[Roy Parker] - [S2398] Roy Parker's GEDCOM.
- [S2432] 1881 Census - RG 11/0247 F006 P006 - Brown, Emma, 18 Sep 2010.
- [S2306] 1891 Census - RG 12/0211 F40 P13 - Jacobs, David, Bef 6 Nov 2019.
- [S2307] 1901 Census - RG 13/1202 F09 P09 - Jacobs, David A, Bef Jan 2020.
- [S2337] 1911 Census - RG 14-06-9-56-06956_0379_03 - Brown-Jacobs, Emma, 27 Dec 2009.
- [S4082] 1921 Census RG15-06374-0375 - Robinson, George, 4 Apr 2023.
- [S2398] Roy Parker's GEDCOM, Bef Jan 2020.
- [S3241] BMD - Death Index, 18 Sep 2010, 1937 OND Peterborough 3b 239.
- [S3359] Marriage Cert - Brown, Henry - Fancy, Jane, 17 Nov 2019.
- [S2398] Roy Parker's GEDCOM.
Record updated from... - [S2278] Notes - Sandra Bonn, Bef 1 Jan 2020.
- [S2398] Roy Parker's GEDCOM, Bef 1 Jan 2020.
Source for field: Source - [S60] BMD - Marriage Index, Bef 1 Jan 2020, 1889 AMJ Page 43 No. 92 Municipality of Winnipeg.
- [S3422] Marriage Entry - Jacobs, David (as David Morris) - Brown, Emma, 10 Mar 2020.
- [S2370] Marriage Cert - Brown, Emma - Robinson, George, 25 Jul 2010.
- [S2398] Roy Parker's GEDCOM.