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Elizabeth WARD

Elizabeth WARD

Female 1867 - 1913  (46 years)    Has 2 ancestors and 31 descendants in this family tree.


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  • Name Elizabeth WARD 
    Birth Between Apr 1867 and Jun 1867  Manchester, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    • GRO gives mother's maiden name as DUNNIGAN
    Gender Female 
    Census 2 Apr 1871  Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Age: 4y 
    Address: 23 York Street 
    • Relation to Head of House: Daughter
    Census 31 Mar 1901  Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Age: 29y 
    Address: 34 Dunham Street 
    • Married (Husband not with her)
      Milk Seller at Dairy
      Living with sisters and her 3 children
    Occupation 31 Mar 1901  Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Milk Seller 
    Age: 29y 
    Census 2 Apr 1911  Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Age: 42y 
    Address: 28 Dunham Street 
    • Living with her 2 sisters
      Has her 3 children with her, but not her husband.
      Married 20 years, 4 children, 3 living, 1 dead
    Reference Number C 0112b 
    Death Between Jul 1913 and Sep 1913  Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Age: 42y 
    • This explains why her son Herbert gave her sister as his next of kin when in the army.
    Person ID I1978  Simpson
    Last Modified 27 Mar 2022 

    Father Joseph WARD,   b. Abt 1833, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Mother Ann DENNINGHAM,   b. Abt 1835, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F622  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Thomas GUINNANE,   b. 26 Apr 1867, Portsea, Hampshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Between Jan 1944 and Mar 1944, Manchester, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 76 years) 
    Marriage Between Jan 1890 and Mar 1890  Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    Notes 
    • Thomas and Elizabeth married in 1890 but in the 1891, 1901 and 1911 censuses they are living apart but still listed as married.
      Elizabeth has their children with them
    Children 
    +1. Joseph GUINNANE,   b. 8 Jul 1891, Manchester, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 19 Aug 1958, Tonbridge, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 67 years)
     2. Lilian GUINNANE,   b. Between Oct 1893 and Dec 1893, Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Between Jul 1894 and Sep 1894, Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 0 years)
    +3. Herbert GUINNANE,   b. 22 Sep 1895, Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 17 Apr 1952, Bucklow, Cheshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 56 years)
    +4. Bernard GUINNANE,   b. 23 Dec 1899, Manchester, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Between Jan 1983 and Mar 1983, Manchester, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 83 years)
    Family ID F621  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 7 Jul 2017 

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - Between Apr 1867 and Jun 1867 - Manchester, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - Age: 4y,Address: 23 York Street - 2 Apr 1871 - Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarriage - Between Jan 1890 and Mar 1890 - Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - Age: 29y,Address: 34 Dunham Street - 31 Mar 1901 - Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Milk Seller,Age: 29y - 31 Mar 1901 - Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - Age: 42y,Address: 28 Dunham Street - 2 Apr 1911 - Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDeath - Age: 42y - Between Jul 1913 and Sep 1913 - Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • Parents of Elizabeth Ward (1867)

      In January 2019 someone raised doubts as to who the correct parents of Elizabeth Ward were.
      Their suggestion was William Henry Ward and Esther E Ward

      I believe that the details below prove that it was Joseph Ward & Ann Denningham (various spellings)

      Elizabeth Ward married Thomas Guinnane in 1890 [1890 JFM Chorlton 8C 1013]
      Thomas' surname is indexed as Gunan

      We know that they had at least one child - Bernard [1900 JFM Chorlton 8C 1005]
      (They actually had 4 children)

      If we look in the GRO records we find his mother's maiden name confirmed as Ward
      Repeating this process, without a forename, we find 3 other children
      Joseph (1891)
      Lilian (1893)
      Herbert (1895)

      At this point we have no date of birth for Elizabeth Ward

      The next step was to look for Thomas & Elizabeth together in a census.
      This is where life becomes interesting.
      They should be together in 1891, 1901, 1911
      1891 - I have Thomas living with his mother and siblings - he is married but no wife
      - As yet I don't have a definitive entry for Elizabeth

      1901 - Thomas is still with his mother & siblings, still married but no wife
      - Elizabeth is living with two of her sisters. [Both single & called Ward
      She has her 3 children with her [Lilian died in 1894]
      We now know how old Elizabeth is, 29, making her born about 1872

      1911 - I haven't found Thomas in 1911 as yet
      - Elizabeth and her 3 children are still living with Elizabeth's 2 sisters
      Her age is now given as 42, making her date of birth 1869

      1939 - Thomas is now remarried - Sarah Thompson
      Thomas gives his date of birth as 26 April 1867 which fits with his GRO entry.
      - Elizabeth has died by this time (1913)

      So, for the 3 censuses where Thomas and Elizabeth should be together, they aren't.
      Given that all 4 children were born between the 1891 census and the 1901 census we could possibly assume that the marriage broke down - but that still wouldn't account for them living apart in 1891.


      Anyway, back to finding Elizabeth's parents.
      From the 1901 and 1911 censuses we know that she had at least 2 siblings: Catherine and Sarah.
      None of the three sisters are particularly consistent with their ages:
      Catherine was born between 1861 - 1866
      Sarah 1863 - 1870
      Elizabeth 1867 - 1872
      The next step was to find all 3 sisters together in a census between 1861 and 1881

      The 1871 census [RG 10/4002 F103 P23/24] has a Ward family comprising parents Joseph and Ann Ward (both born in Ireland) and 5 daughters including Catherine (1861), Sarah Ann (1863) and Elizabeth (1867).
      These dates of birth fit within the range listed above.
      The likelihood of there being two such census entries is low.
      Also living with the family are a family of relatives called Denningham (spelling varies).
      The oldest member of this family, is James aged 75. I am inclined to believe that he is Ann Ward's father.

      Looking for GRO births for the children finds similar surnames for their mother: Dinning, Dennigan, Dunnigan.

      Note that Thomas & Elizabeth's son, Herbert, gives his next of kin as Sarah Ward (aunt) in 1916 (Service Record) - she is living at 4 Dur(n)ham Street and he gives that as his discharge address. In 1911 they lived at No. 28

      Looking at the other person's entry which has Elizabeth's parents as William Henry Ward and Esther E.
      Based on the date of birth they have for Henry W (1838), the earliest they could have married was 1854.
      Equally, they have Elizabeth born 1869 which gives a likely range for William & Esther's marriage of 1854 -1869.

      I have found 11 possibles:-
      1854 Esther Ann Lee
      1854 Esther Mackey
      1855 Esther Slade
      1857 Esther Bratt
      1860 Esther Holden
      1860 Esther Lees
      1861 Esther Elizabeth Forrest
      1862 Esther Elliott
      1864 Esther Nutter
      1867 Esther Cordery
      1869 Esther Joyce

      Unfortunately none of these appear to fit.

  • Sources 
    1. [S3242] BMD - Birth Index, 27 Jan 2017, 1867 AMJ Chorlton 8C 703.
      GRO Checked

    2. [S860] 1871 Census - RG 10/4002 F103 P23/24 - Ward, Elizabeth, 25 Apr 2010.

    3. [S861] 1901 Census - RG 13/3702 F066 P29 - Ward, Elizabeth, 25 Apr 2010.

    4. [S859] 1911 Census - RG 14/23876 SN097 - Ward, Elizabeth, 25 Apr 2010.

    5. [S3241] BMD - Death Index, 25 Apr 2010, 1913 JAS Chorlton 8C 1062.
      GRO Checked

    6. [S60] BMD - Marriage Index, 25 Apr 2010, 1890 JFM Chorlton 8C 1013.
      He is listed in BMD as Gunan