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151 JACOBS OF GUATEMALA - NAMING CONVENTION.
The unusual (by British standards) naming convention confused me until it was explained.

In the UK when a Mr Jacobs marries a Miss Jackson the norm is that the family name will remain as Jacobs, or possibly Jackson-Jacobs, and this will remain so for their children.

So their son, Louis would be Louis Jackson-Jacobs.
When he married Isabel Jones the family name would normally remain Jackson-Jacobs, or more rarely, Jones-Jackson-Jacobs.

However it would appear that in Guatemala the convention is different.
Using the same example, the family name would become Jacobs Jackson.
Their son, Louis would be Louis Jacobs-Jackson.

However, when he married Isabel Jones, the Jackson (his mother's maiden name) would be dropped and the family name would become Jacobs-Jones.

And so on.. 
Acu?a, Gregoria Bernardita (I5210)
 
152 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living (I5211)
 
153 JACOBS OF GUATEMALA - NAMING CONVENTION.
The unusual (by British standards) naming convention confused me until it was explained.

In the UK when a Mr Jacobs marries a Miss Jackson the norm is that the family name will remain as Jacobs, or possibly Jackson-Jacobs, and this will remain so for their children.

So their son, Louis would be Louis Jackson-Jacobs.
When he married Isabel Jones the family name would normally remain Jackson-Jacobs, or more rarely, Jones-Jackson-Jacobs.

However it would appear that in Guatemala the convention is different.
Using the same example, the family name would become Jacobs Jackson.
Their son, Louis would be Louis Jacobs-Jackson.

However, when he married Isabel Jones, the Jackson (his mother's maiden name) would be dropped and the family name would become Jacobs-Jones.

And so on.. 
Jacobs Dominguez, Oseas Romeo (I5224)
 
154 JACOBS OF GUATEMALA - NAMING CONVENTION.
The unusual (by British standards) naming convention confused me until it was explained.

In the UK when a Mr Jacobs marries a Miss Jackson the norm is that the family name will remain as Jacobs, or possibly Jackson-Jacobs, and this will remain so for their children.

So their son, Louis would be Louis Jackson-Jacobs.
When he married Isabel Jones the family name would normally remain Jackson-Jacobs, or more rarely, Jones-Jackson-Jacobs.

However it would appear that in Guatemala the convention is different.
Using the same example, the family name would become Jacobs Jackson.
Their son, Louis would be Louis Jacobs-Jackson.

However, when he married Isabel Jones, the Jackson (his mother's maiden name) would be dropped and the family name would become Jacobs-Jones.

And so on.. 
Jacobs Murillo, Ester Juana (I5232)
 
155 JACOBS OF GUATEMALA - NAMING CONVENTION.
The unusual (by British standards) naming convention confused me until it was explained.

In the UK when a Mr Jacobs marries a Miss Jackson the norm is that the family name will remain as Jacobs, or possibly Jackson-Jacobs, and this will remain so for their children.

So their son, Louis would be Louis Jackson-Jacobs.
When he married Isabel Jones the family name would normally remain Jackson-Jacobs, or more rarely, Jones-Jackson-Jacobs.

However it would appear that in Guatemala the convention is different.
Using the same example, the family name would become Jacobs Jackson.
Their son, Louis would be Louis Jacobs-Jackson.

However, when he married Isabel Jones, the Jackson (his mother's maiden name) would be dropped and the family name would become Jacobs-Jones.

And so on.. 
Jacobs Meza, Alma (I5242)
 
156 JACOBS OF GUATEMALA - NAMING CONVENTION.
The unusual (by British standards) naming convention confused me until it was explained.

In the UK when a Mr Jacobs marries a Miss Jackson the norm is that the family name will remain as Jacobs, or possibly Jackson-Jacobs, and this will remain so for their children.

So their son, Louis would be Louis Jackson-Jacobs.
When he married Isabel Jones the family name would normally remain Jackson-Jacobs, or more rarely, Jones-Jackson-Jacobs.

However it would appear that in Guatemala the convention is different.
Using the same example, the family name would become Jacobs Jackson.
Their son, Louis would be Louis Jacobs-Jackson.

However, when he married Isabel Jones, the Jackson (his mother's maiden name) would be dropped and the family name would become Jacobs-Jones.

And so on.. 
[Peinada Jacobs], Unknown (I5245)
 
157 JACOBS OF GUATEMALA - NAMING CONVENTION.
The unusual (by British standards) naming convention confused me until it was explained.

In the UK when a Mr Jacobs marries a Miss Jackson the norm is that the family name will remain as Jacobs, or possibly Jackson-Jacobs, and this will remain so for their children.

So their son, Louis would be Louis Jackson-Jacobs.
When he married Isabel Jones the family name would normally remain Jackson-Jacobs, or more rarely, Jones-Jackson-Jacobs.

However it would appear that in Guatemala the convention is different.
Using the same example, the family name would become Jacobs Jackson.
Their son, Louis would be Louis Jacobs-Jackson.

However, when he married Isabel Jones, the Jackson (his mother's maiden name) would be dropped and the family name would become Jacobs-Jones.

And so on.. 
Peinado Jacobs, Unknown (I5247)
 
158 Robert Henry Horn / Robert Mackney
This has long been a puzzle.

I was contact some years ago by Lesley McNair who believed that her ancestor, Robert Mackney, was the same person as the Robert Mackney in my tree.

Over the years it became apparent that they werent the same person, but that there was a connection somewhere along the way.

In February 2021 Lesley contacted me and said that she was convinced that her Robert Mackney was in fact Robert Henry Horn, whose mother had been Elizabeth McNair, the aunt of my Robert Mackney.

This put a different light on things.

Lesley couldnt find Robert Henry Horn after his parents died, and equally she couldnt find Robert Mackney before Robert Horns parents died.

Everything seemed to fit, but proving it was a different matter.

Eventually I managed to find a Liverpool Workhouse record that made the link.
Robert was listed as both Robert Henry Horn, and Mackney, and gave his wife as Mary Alice Mackney. The problem was solved.
 
Horn, Robert Henry (I3229)
 
159 Some trees have a WW I record for Frederick (as William Frederick)
however, looking at it detail I believe that this is an entirely different person:Brothers: Alfred and SidneyHe gives his birthplace as Harrington in Kent.His father is listed as Frederick (could well be true of 'our' Frederick ) 
Curtis, Frederick William (I9538)
 
160 This is the document that confirmed that Robert Henry Horn and Robert Mackney are the same person.
Note that in the next entry he is just down as Robert Henry Horn

Admitted to workhouse - it doesn't say which one.
I suspect he was actually in the hospital area
Entry No. 5420
As Robert Henry Horn or Mackney
Next of kin lists 'wife Mary Alice Mackney - same address'
Also lists an uncle 'James ??? , ??? Wartley, Leeds' - no idea who this is.
Discharged 22/03/1907 
Horn, Robert Henry (I3229)
 
161 During WW2 Peter Coopman was an RAF Sergeant Wireless operator and air gunner on Lancaster bombers. The Ulceby War Memorial records his death and that of all the crew members of two Lancaster bombers which collided mid air over Ulceby 16 December 1943. Their target was Berlin. Peter was 21 when he died and is buried ( see photograph of his tombstone) Cambridge City Cemetery 103 Squadron.
Source: Post by Phil Kirby
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Coopman, Peter (I7267)
 
162 Leah was admitted by her mother

Her patient records describe her as "Excited imagination dwelling chiefly on high capability for music with a desire for an immediate opera engagement - dressing outr? and most destructive of furniture, books, wearing apparel etc." 
Jacobs, Leah (I4021)
 
163 Leah was discharged as being "Cured"

Two people are listed as part of the County Union to be charged:
Solomon H Cohen, Glass Dealer, 1 Broadway, Westminster
Solomon Jacobs, Rag Merchant, 4 Midway Street, Westminster.
Solomon Jacobs is her brother.

 
Jacobs, Leah (I4021)
 
164  Source (S3450)
 
165
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Tingey, Eric W (I9581)
 
166
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Tingey, Eric W (I9581)
 
167
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Curtis, Joyce (I9541)
 
168
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Tingey, Arthur William (I9580)
 
169 ?10,801 Curtis, Ivy Florence (I9558)
 
170 ?11,360 Curtis, Frederick William (I9538)
 
171 ?2,099 Jacobs, Ellen Dorothy (I4479)
 
172 ?2,494 Stephenson, Barrow (I3765)
 
173 ?436 Wheeler, Arthur Henry Samuel (I7030)
 
174 ?7,830 Steele, Harry (I2137)
 
175 ???? in Gasworks
Living with his brother, William, and family
Single 
Benjamin, John (I6719)
 
176 A list of colonial-era settlers, residents and traders of Bulawayo, Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe), c1895, adapted from Davis' Bulawayo Directory 1895-1896
Jacobs, Harry, Broker, 344, Fife Street E.
Jacobs, Harry, Broker, 454, Rhodes Street E.
 
Jacobs, Harry Braham (I3982)
 
177 A lot of Sites on Ancestry use the date given on the 1939 Nat Reg, but this is out by a year.
There is a BMD entry for Q4 1866 but not 1867
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Martin, Mary Eleanor (I8089)
 
178 A number of notices were inserted into The Sydney Morning Herald [26/04/1919]. Karilyn Pawley sent me a set of transriptions (19/04/2022).
I have added the images

 
Dunn, Edward John (I6116)
 
179 A Rating Officer at the time Letters of Administration granted after the death of his wife. Southward, John (I577)
 
180 Abode: Above Cragg, Hawkshead Thackeray, Mary (I8075)
 
181 Abode: Forge
Father's occupation: Labourer 
Thackeray, Margaret (I8076)
 
182 Abode: Forge
Father's occupation: Labourer 
Thackeray, Sarah (I8077)
 
183 Abode: Forge Thackeray, Thomas (I8074)
 
184 Absent Voters
Lists military details
Frederick William Curtis Reg No. 12530 Pte. A.P.C. (Army Pay Corps) 
Curtis, Frederick William (I9538)
 
185 Absent Voters
Lists military details
Frederick William Curtis Reg No. 12530 Pte. A.P.C. (Army Pay Corps) 
Curtis, Ernest Philip (I9557)
 
186 Abstract of Title.
Note that Michael is only named as Nathan 
Nathan, Michael (I762)
 
187 According to 1911 census she had 3 children who died. Woodburne, Elizabeth Ann (I236)
 
188 According to a Removal order that was served on her parents, Maria is the mother of Isabella who was illegitimate.

We also learn that Maria has abandoned Isabella and left her with her parents. 
Jacobs, Maria (I4356)
 
189 According to an email from Anne Harris-Piccoli of New York in April 2013, Milcah was known in the family as Amelia

 
Levy, Milcah (I4017)
 
190 According to an email from Anthony Braham in March 2009 Eileen was married twice, first to a Mr Pate and then to Elwyn Churchill.

When she married Churchill she is indexed as both Pate and Braham as he maiden name which tends to confirm Anthony's story.

But why comment about it being before 1937? [DS 13/11/2015]
I have not managed to find anything to match at all.
Tried:
Braham = Pate (all years) but no results
Lil* Braham (all years) but nothing suitable

 
Braham, Lillian Elizabeth (I570)
 
191 According to an email from Penny Dias the Dias family were Sephardic Jews rather than Ashkenazi which the Jacobs appear to have been. Dias, Daniel (I4049)
 
192 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living (I2218)
 
193 According to article in 'The Era' she was buried in the family vault at Heywood. Lomas, Margaret (I196)
 
194 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Family: Yaakov (Yankel) Baddiel / Living (F1699)
 
195 According to Hazel Bell she emigrated to Australia in 1935
Details for Birth and Death from Hazel Bell's tree on Ancestry 
Webster, Bertha Agnes (I1940)
 
196 According to Hazel Bell Thomas & Bertha emigrated to Canada after Francis & Thomas were born. Family: Thomas Webster / Bertha Ann Denney (F609)
 
197 According to Hazel Bell:
My dad, Sidney Daniel, was a widower with 3 children, Florence, Evelyn & Leonard, when he & mum married in January 1936.

According to dad, he & mum met & married in 6 weeks.

Daniel, Sidney St Clair (I1943)
 
198 According to John Rolfe-Dickinson, Amy, Olive & Esther stayed in Saltaire
2 Children 
Llewellyn, Amy (I2149)
 
199 According to John Rolfe-Dickinson, Amy, Olive & Esther stayed in Saltaire
4 Children 
Llewellyn, Esther (I2199)
 
200 According to John Rolfe-Dickinson, Amy, Olive & Esther stayed in Saltaire
No children 
Llewellyn, Olive (I2153)
 

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