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John CARNEY

John CARNEY

Male Abt 1861 - 1925  (64 years)    Has 2 ancestors and 47 descendants in this family tree.


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  • Name John CARNEY  [1
    Birth Abt 1861  Manchester, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 3, 4
    Gender Male 
    Census 5 Apr 1891  Salford, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Age: 33y 
    Address: 59 Ruby Street 
    • Relation to Head of House: Lodger
      Dyer
      Living in same street as Mary Jane
    Occupation 5 Apr 1891  Salford, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Dyer 
    Age: 33y 
    Census 31 Mar 1901  Salford, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Age: 39y 
    Address: 34 Jennings St very near West Craven St. Also near Taylorson Str 
    • Relation to Head of House: Boarder (Son-in-law)
      Married. General Labourer. Living with Mother-in-Law
    Occupation 31 Mar 1901  Salford, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    General Labourer 
    Age: 39y 
    Census 2 Apr 1911  Barton Upon Irwell, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Age: 49y 
    Address: 601 Sixth Street, Trafford Park 
    • Labourer. Engineering Works
      Married 19 Years
      4 Children 3 Living, 1 Dead
    Reference Number C 0016aP 
    Death 9 Jan 1925  Stretford, Manchester, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [6, 7
    Age: 63y 
    Cause: Bronchitis 
    Address: 12 Magdala Street, [53.46659885937793, -2.2654365363544695] 
    • Engineer's Labourer
      Son, William, present at the death. Same address
      On Modern Maps: 53.46659885937793, -2.2654365363544695
    Person ID I127  Simpson
    Last Modified 31 Jul 2022 

    Father John CARNEY,   b. Bef 1845, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Bef 1891 (Age < 46 years) 
    Mother Unknown [CARNEY] 
    Marriage Bef 1861  [8
    Family ID F59  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Mary Jane GUINNANE,   b. 29 Aug 1868, Salford, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 20 Oct 1914, Stretford, Manchester, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 46 years) 
    Marriage 27 Aug 1891  Salford, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [9, 10
    Address: Mount Carmel R.C. Church 
    • He is a Velvet Dyer
      His address: 13 Hollingwood St., Salford
      Her address: 8 Darley Street, Salford
    Reference Number C 0036-C 0037 
    Children 
    +1. William CARNEY,   b. 9 Sep 1892, Salford, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Jan 1963, Swinton, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 70 years)
    +2. John Leopold CARNEY,   b. 19 May 1896, Salford, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 10 Dec 1918, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 22 years)
     3. Mary Agnes CARNEY,   b. 25 Mar 1898, Salford, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 5 Feb 1900, Salford, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 1 year)
    +4. James CARNEY,   b. 1 Jan 1905, Salford, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 30 Apr 1981, Manchester, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 76 years)
    Family ID F36  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 13 Nov 2021 

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - Abt 1861 - Manchester, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - Age: 33y,Address: 59 Ruby Street - 5 Apr 1891 - Salford, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Dyer,Age: 33y - 5 Apr 1891 - Salford, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarriage - Address: Mount Carmel R.C. Church - 27 Aug 1891 - Salford, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - Age: 39y,Address: 34 Jennings St very near West Craven St. Also near Taylorson Str - 31 Mar 1901 - Salford, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - General Labourer,Age: 39y - 31 Mar 1901 - Salford, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - Age: 49y,Address: 601 Sixth Street, Trafford Park - 2 Apr 1911 - Barton Upon Irwell, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDeath - Age: 63y,Cause: Bronchitis,Address: 12 Magdala Street, [53.46659885937793, -2.2654365363544695] - 9 Jan 1925 - Stretford, Manchester, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • Possibly in the Army, try John Carney, Private, 18th Kings Own Regt. aged 20
      Possibly in Salford Barracks
      [Probably refers to 1881 census - but unconfirmed]

      1891 - Dyer (Census)
      1891 - Velvet Dyer (Marr cert)
      1896 - Dyer's Labourer (Leo's birth cert)
      1905 - General Labourer [James' Birth Certificate]
      Marriage Certificate gives 29.08.1891, Parish register gives 27.08.1891
      Marriage Witnesses: John Murphy & Elizabeth Guinnane

      btw 19 May 1896 and 1901 lived at 34 Jennings St., Salford
      Jennings St very near West Craven St. Also near Taylorson Street.

      1903 41 West Craven St., Salford, Lancashire
      [Aug 2008 - Source?]

  • Sources 
    1. [S39] Marriage Cert - Carney, James - C 029.
      Father's middle name given as Charles, but this doesn't appear on James' birth cert. nor on John's marriage cert.

    2. [S3242] BMD - Birth Index, 4 May 2007.
      No definitive match GRO/BMD
      Tried JAS 1861 Manchester 8D 227 Father: John
      But father on certificate not John [04/05/07]

    3. [S102] 1901 Census - RG 13/3735 F062 P37 - Guinnane, John, 1 Jan 1980.

    4. [S381] 1891 Census - RG 12/3225 F054 P06 - Carney, John, 1 Jan 1980.

    5. [S675] 1911 Census - RG 14/23638 SN088 - Carney, 1 Jan 1980.

    6. [S598] Death Cert - Carney, John C036, 27 Apr 2009, 1925 JFM Barton I 8C 785.
      Map: 53.466109,-2.266129
      Street no longer there (2013).


    7. [S39] Marriage Cert - Carney, James - C 029, 1 Jan 1980.
      Deceased on James' Marriage Certificate

    8. [S34] Calculated, 1 Jan 1980.
      Based on son being born around 1861

    9. [S36] Marriage Cert - Carney, John - C 036, 18 Oct 2014.

    10. [S279] Marriage Cert - PR Carney, John - Transcript, 18 Oct 2014.