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Elizabeth WARD
1867 - 1913 (46 years) Has 2 ancestors and 31 descendants in this family tree.-
Name Elizabeth WARD Birth Between Apr 1867 and Jun 1867 Manchester, Lancashire, England [1] - GRO gives mother's maiden name as DUNNIGAN
Gender Female Census 2 Apr 1871 Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England [2] Age: 4y Address: 23 York Street - Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Census 31 Mar 1901 Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England [3] Age: 29y Address: 34 Dunham Street - Married (Husband not with her)
Milk Seller at Dairy
Living with sisters and her 3 children
Occupation 31 Mar 1901 Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England Milk Seller Age: 29y Census 2 Apr 1911 Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England [4] Age: 42y Address: 28 Dunham Street - Living with her 2 sisters
Has her 3 children with her, but not her husband.
Married 20 years, 4 children, 3 living, 1 dead
Reference Number C 0112b Death Between Jul 1913 and Sep 1913 Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England [5] Age: 42y - This explains why her son Herbert gave her sister as his next of kin when in the army.
Person ID I1978 Simpson Last Modified 27 Mar 2022
Father Joseph WARD, b. Abt 1833, Ireland Mother Ann DENNINGHAM, b. Abt 1835, Ireland Family ID F622 Group Sheet | Family Chart
Family Thomas GUINNANE, b. 26 Apr 1867, Portsea, Hampshire, England d. Between Jan 1944 and Mar 1944, Manchester, Lancashire, England (Age 76 years) Marriage Between Jan 1890 and Mar 1890 Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England [6] Notes - Thomas and Elizabeth married in 1890 but in the 1891, 1901 and 1911 censuses they are living apart but still listed as married.
Elizabeth has their children with them
Children + 1. Joseph GUINNANE, b. 8 Jul 1891, Manchester, Lancashire, England d. 19 Aug 1958, Tonbridge, Kent, England (Age 67 years) 2. Lilian GUINNANE, b. Between Oct 1893 and Dec 1893, Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England d. Between Jul 1894 and Sep 1894, Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England (Age 0 years) + 3. Herbert GUINNANE, b. 22 Sep 1895, Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England d. 17 Apr 1952, Bucklow, Cheshire, England (Age 56 years) + 4. Bernard GUINNANE, b. 23 Dec 1899, Manchester, Lancashire, England d. Between Jan 1983 and Mar 1983, Manchester, Lancashire, England (Age 83 years) Family ID F621 Group Sheet | Family Chart Last Modified 7 Jul 2017
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Notes - Parents of Elizabeth Ward (1867)
In January 2019 someone raised doubts as to who the correct parents of Elizabeth Ward were.
Their suggestion was William Henry Ward and Esther E Ward
I believe that the details below prove that it was Joseph Ward & Ann Denningham (various spellings)
Elizabeth Ward married Thomas Guinnane in 1890 [1890 JFM Chorlton 8C 1013]
Thomas' surname is indexed as Gunan
We know that they had at least one child - Bernard [1900 JFM Chorlton 8C 1005]
(They actually had 4 children)
If we look in the GRO records we find his mother's maiden name confirmed as Ward
Repeating this process, without a forename, we find 3 other children
Joseph (1891)
Lilian (1893)
Herbert (1895)
At this point we have no date of birth for Elizabeth Ward
The next step was to look for Thomas & Elizabeth together in a census.
This is where life becomes interesting.
They should be together in 1891, 1901, 1911
1891 - I have Thomas living with his mother and siblings - he is married but no wife
- As yet I don't have a definitive entry for Elizabeth
1901 - Thomas is still with his mother & siblings, still married but no wife
- Elizabeth is living with two of her sisters. [Both single & called Ward
She has her 3 children with her [Lilian died in 1894]
We now know how old Elizabeth is, 29, making her born about 1872
1911 - I haven't found Thomas in 1911 as yet
- Elizabeth and her 3 children are still living with Elizabeth's 2 sisters
Her age is now given as 42, making her date of birth 1869
1939 - Thomas is now remarried - Sarah Thompson
Thomas gives his date of birth as 26 April 1867 which fits with his GRO entry.
- Elizabeth has died by this time (1913)
So, for the 3 censuses where Thomas and Elizabeth should be together, they aren't.
Given that all 4 children were born between the 1891 census and the 1901 census we could possibly assume that the marriage broke down - but that still wouldn't account for them living apart in 1891.
Anyway, back to finding Elizabeth's parents.
From the 1901 and 1911 censuses we know that she had at least 2 siblings: Catherine and Sarah.
None of the three sisters are particularly consistent with their ages:
Catherine was born between 1861 - 1866
Sarah 1863 - 1870
Elizabeth 1867 - 1872
The next step was to find all 3 sisters together in a census between 1861 and 1881
The 1871 census [RG 10/4002 F103 P23/24] has a Ward family comprising parents Joseph and Ann Ward (both born in Ireland) and 5 daughters including Catherine (1861), Sarah Ann (1863) and Elizabeth (1867).
These dates of birth fit within the range listed above.
The likelihood of there being two such census entries is low.
Also living with the family are a family of relatives called Denningham (spelling varies).
The oldest member of this family, is James aged 75. I am inclined to believe that he is Ann Ward's father.
Looking for GRO births for the children finds similar surnames for their mother: Dinning, Dennigan, Dunnigan.
Note that Thomas & Elizabeth's son, Herbert, gives his next of kin as Sarah Ward (aunt) in 1916 (Service Record) - she is living at 4 Dur(n)ham Street and he gives that as his discharge address. In 1911 they lived at No. 28
Looking at the other person's entry which has Elizabeth's parents as William Henry Ward and Esther E.
Based on the date of birth they have for Henry W (1838), the earliest they could have married was 1854.
Equally, they have Elizabeth born 1869 which gives a likely range for William & Esther's marriage of 1854 -1869.
I have found 11 possibles:-
1854 Esther Ann Lee
1854 Esther Mackey
1855 Esther Slade
1857 Esther Bratt
1860 Esther Holden
1860 Esther Lees
1861 Esther Elizabeth Forrest
1862 Esther Elliott
1864 Esther Nutter
1867 Esther Cordery
1869 Esther Joyce
Unfortunately none of these appear to fit.
- Parents of Elizabeth Ward (1867)
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Sources - [S3242] BMD - Birth Index, 27 Jan 2017, 1867 AMJ Chorlton 8C 703.
GRO Checked - [S860] 1871 Census - RG 10/4002 F103 P23/24 - Ward, Elizabeth, 25 Apr 2010.
- [S861] 1901 Census - RG 13/3702 F066 P29 - Ward, Elizabeth, 25 Apr 2010.
- [S859] 1911 Census - RG 14/23876 SN097 - Ward, Elizabeth, 25 Apr 2010.
- [S3241] BMD - Death Index, 25 Apr 2010, 1913 JAS Chorlton 8C 1062.
GRO Checked - [S60] BMD - Marriage Index, 25 Apr 2010, 1890 JFM Chorlton 8C 1013.
He is listed in BMD as Gunan
- [S3242] BMD - Birth Index, 27 Jan 2017, 1867 AMJ Chorlton 8C 703.