Dave's Family History
Joseph Charles WINES
1853 - 1923 (70 years) Has 9 ancestors and 24 descendants in this family tree.-
Name Joseph Charles WINES Birth Between Jul 1853 and Sep 1853 Ratcliffe, London, England [1] Gender Male Census 7 Apr 1861 Ratcliffe, London, England [2] Age: 7y Address: 102 Broad Street - Relation to Head of House: Son
As James?
Scholar
Census 2 Apr 1871 Ratcliffe, London, England [3] Age: 18y Address: 1 Palmer Street - Relation to Head of House: Son
Bottler
Occupation 2 Apr 1871 Ratcliffe, London, England Bottler Age: 18y Census 3 Apr 1881 Limehouse, London, England [4] Age: 27y Address: 7 Wilson Street - Relation to Head of House: Son
Cellerman
Living with his parents
Occupation 3 Apr 1881 Limehouse, London, England Cellerman Age: 27y Census 5 Apr 1891 Southwark, London, England [5] Age: 37y Address: 78 Jubilee Buildings - Relation to Head of House: Head
Carman?
Occupation 5 Apr 1891 Southwark, London, England Carman Age: 37y Census 31 Mar 1901 Stepney, London, England [6] Age: 47y Address: 1 Grosvenor Street - Carman
Occupation 31 Mar 1901 Stepney, London, England Carman Age: 47y Census 2 Apr 1911 Mile End Old Town, London, England [7] Age: 58y Address: 5 Grosvenor Street - Married 38 years, 10 children, 4 living, 6 died
Can only find 9 children [03/12/2016]
Carman for Wm Berman, Ann Street Coaches
(This is not clear to read)
Census 19 Jun 1921 Mile End, London, England [8] Age: 68y Address: 41 Fair Street - Relation to Head of House: Head
Carman
Name James Charles Wines [2] Reference Number BR 0386a Death Between Jul 1923 and Sep 1923 Mile End Old Town, London, England [9] Age: 70y Person ID I1332 Simpson Last Modified 10 Apr 2023
Father John William WINES, b. Abt 1829, Limehouse, London, England d. Between Apr 1911 and Jun 1911, Lambeth, London, England (Age 82 years) Mother Mary Ann MANNING, b. Abt 1831, Ratcliffe, London, England d. Between Apr 1892 and Jun 1892, Edmonton, London, England (Age 61 years) Marriage 23 Apr 1848 Shoreditch, London, England [10, 11] - He is of Full Age, she is a Minor
Family ID F276 Group Sheet | Family Chart
Family Mary Ann MAIN, b. Between Apr 1853 and Jun 1853, Stepney, London, England d. Between Jan 1931 and Mar 1931, West Ham, London, England (Age 77 years) Marriage 25 Dec 1875 Stepney, London, England [12, 13] Address: 13 Grosvenor Street - Cooper
Note that one of the witnesses is Ayton Martha Wines
Notes - In 1911 Census they declare 10 children, 4 living, 6 dead. I can only find 9 children - 6 dead
Children + 1. Joseph Charles WINES, b. Between Jan 1877 and Mar 1877, Blackfriars, London, England 2. Frederick John WINES, b. Between Jul 1878 and Sep 1878, St. Saviour, Surrey, England d. Between Jan 1880 and Mar 1880, St Saviour, London, England (Age 1 year) + 3. Gertrude Alice WINES, b. 7 Nov 1879, Blackfriars, London, England 4. Lily Emily WINES, b. 23 Jun 1881, Limehouse, London, England d. Between Jan 1886 and Mar 1886, Stepney, London, England (Age 4 years) + 5. Harry Edwin WINES, b. 13 Jan 1883, Brixton, London, England 6. John William WINES, b. 2 Jan 1885, Limehouse, London, England d. Between Jan 1886 and Mar 1886, Stepney, London, England (Age 1 year) 7. Thomas George WINES, b. 29 Dec 1886, Limehouse, London, England 8. Louisa Jane WINES, b. 1 Jul 1888, Limehouse, London, England d. Between Apr 1891 and Jun 1891, St George East, London, England (Age 2 years) 9. Elizabeth Ada WINES, b. 14 Jan 1891, Wapping, London, England d. Between Jul 1892 and Sep 1892, Stepney, London, England (Age 1 year) Family ID F426 Group Sheet | Family Chart Last Modified 20 Jan 2022
- Relation to Head of House: Son
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Sources - [S3242] BMD - Birth Index, 1 Jan 1980, JAS 1853 Stepney 1c 436.
GRO Checked - [S1099] 1861 Census - RG 9/0285 F123 P06 - Wines, John W & Mary A, 22 Feb 2012.
- [S1100] 1871 Census - RG 10/0547 F137/138 P26/27 - Wines, John W & Mary A, 22 Feb 2012.
- [S531] 1881 Census - RG 11/0466 F060 P02 - Wines, John W & Mary A, 1 Jan 1980.
- [S535] 1891 Census - RG 12/0288 F128 P53 - Wines, Joseph & Mary A, 1 Jan 1980.
- [S541] 1901 Census - RG 13/0329 F016 P21 - Wines, Joseph C, 1 Jan 1980.
- [S747] 1911 Census - RG 14/01595 SN215 -Wines, Joseph Charles, 31 Dec 2009.
- [S3979] 1921 Census RG15-01614-0235 - Wines, Joseph c, 4 Apr 2023.
- [S3241] BMD - Death Index, 5 Mar 2016, 1923 JAS Mile End 1c 271.
- [S1101] Marriage Cert - Wines, John William - Manning, Mary Ann, 22 Feb 2012.
- [S60] BMD - Marriage Index, 22 Feb 2012, AMJ 1848 Shoreditch 2 366.
Only suitable match in BMD - [S1139] Marriage Cert - Wines, Joseph Charles, Main, Mary Ann, 26 Feb 2012.
- [S60] BMD - Marriage Index, 14 Jan 2017, OND 1875 Stepney 1c 1086.
- [S3242] BMD - Birth Index, 1 Jan 1980, JAS 1853 Stepney 1c 436.