Gerard (Jeff) GUINNANE

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: C 0069a
• Social Security Number: 374403123
• Census: 29 Sep 1939, Salford, Lancashire, England; Address: 4 Durham Street
• Immigration: 13 Nov 1956, New York, USA

Notes:

Census:
Redacted
Indexed as Guinname & Guinnane

Immigration:
Ship: Franconia
Address: Detroit, Michigan

Buried:
Note that on the burial plaque, the image is upside down.

Gerard married Living [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Joseph GUINNANE was born in Michigan, USA.
2. Living
3. Living
4. Living
5. Living
6. Living
7. Living
8. Living

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: C 0063a
• Census: 31 Mar 1901, Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England; : 1y; Address: 34 Dunham Street
• Census: 2 Apr 1911, Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England; : 11y; Address: 28 Dunham Road
• Census: 19 Jun 1921, Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England; : 21y 6m; Address: 4 Dunham Street
• Census: 29 Sep 1939, Salford, Lancashire, England; Address: 4 Durham Street

Notes:

Census:
Single, Scholar
Living with siblings, mother and 2 aunts

Census:
Relation to Head of House: Nephew
labouring, Electrical Department - Metropolitan Vickers Lts
Kate & Sarah Ward in same house - his Maternal Aunts

Census:
Born: 1899
+2 Redacted
Indexed as Guinname
Living with Sarah Ward (Aunt)
Motor Driver & Salesman in Hardware
ARP Street Warden

Buried:
Section M Grave No. 2428

Bernard married Annie ROSS between Apr 1927 and Jun 1927 in Chorlton-on-Medlock, Lancashire, England. Annie (daughter of James Gilbert ROSS and Annie BIRD) was born between Jul 1901 and Sep 1901 in Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England; died between Apr 1958 and Jun 1958 in Manchester, Lancashire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: C 0063b
• Census: 2 Apr 1911, Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England; : 10y; Address: 54 River Street/City Road
• Census: 19 Jun 1921, Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England; : 19y 10m; Address: 5 Rutland Street
• Census: 29 Sep 1939, Salford, Lancashire, England; Address: 4 Durham Street

Notes:

Birth:
1939 Register gives 09/08/1888
1888 would be pre her parents marriage
She is not with family in 1891/1901
Age at death fits with a 1901 birth
She is the right age in 1911

Census:
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Servant - Out of Work

Census:
Born: 1888
+2 Redacted
Indexed as Guinname & Guinnane

Notes:

Married:
From Lancashire BMD

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: C 0112a
• Census: 3 Apr 1881, Salford, Lancashire, England; : 14y; Address: 55 Taylorson Street
• Baptism: 1891, Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England; Address: St Wilfrid RC Church
• Census: 5 Apr 1891, Salford, Lancashire, England; : 24y; Address: 18 Ruby Street, Salford
• Census: 31 Mar 1901, Salford, Lancashire, England; : 33y; Address: 34 Jennings St., Salford
• Occupation: 31 Mar 1901, Salford, Lancashire, England; Dock Labourer; : 33y
• Directory: 1909, Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England; Address: 24 Dunham Street
• Census: 2 Apr 1911
• Enlisted: 5 Oct 1915, Manchester, Lancashire, England; : 38y 5m; Address: 24 Quay Street, Deansgate
• Demobbed: 4 Dec 1916, Preston, Lancashire, England; : 39y 7m
• Regiment: 4 Dec 1916; 26th Reserve Battalion
• Service No.: 4 Dec 1916; 31025
• Census: 19 Jun 1921, Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England; : 48y 5m; Address: 9 Brookside
• Census: 29 Sep 1939, Manchester, Lancashire, England; Address: 9 Brookside

Notes:

Birth:
Indexed as Guinnan, mother as Morrison

Mother's maiden name given as Moore
"Maria Guinnane (olim Moore)"
They had 3 goes at writing the surname!

2nd Baptism in 1891

Census:
Relation to Head of House: Son


Baptism:
MLFHS - Catholic Register Index Search
Baptised at the same time as his son Joseph

Census:
Relation to Head of House: Son
Married - no wife present
Pilot Shunter

Census:
Relation to Head of House: Son
Married (no wife present), Dock Labourer
Living with his mother and siblings


Directory:
The entry gives 24 Dunham Street. H and I have interpreted the H as Hulme
Note that Dunham Street feature for other family members on several occasions, but not No. 24

Householder

Census:
Not with wife & family

Enlisted:
He lies about his age by 10 years (younger). This is given a little more accurately on his medical sheet which gives him as about 3 years older than he really is. Interestingly the discharge sheet doesn't acknowledge this.
He states that he is a widower

Demobbed:
No longer physically fit for war service.
He gives his intended address as
84 Rodney Street, Birkenhead

Census:
Relation to Head of House: Head
General Labourer - Mrs Green, Chocolate - Out of work

Number of Children (under16) by age:- (3) <1, 1, 10) - Note: There is no entry for the 10 year old child

Indexed as Ginnane
Also Julian Downward (b. 1865 Ireland)


Census:
Born: 1867
+1 Redacted
Retired Railway ?????

Thomas married Elizabeth WARD between Jan 1890 and Mar 1890 in Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England. Elizabeth (daughter of Joseph WARD and Ann DENNINGHAM) was born between Apr 1867 and Jun 1867 in Manchester, Lancashire, England; died between Jul 1913 and Sep 1913 in Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: C 0112b
• Census: 2 Apr 1871, Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England; : 4y; Address: 23 York Street
• Census: 31 Mar 1901, Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England; : 29y; Address: 34 Dunham Street
• Occupation: 31 Mar 1901, Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England; Milk Seller; : 29y
• Census: 2 Apr 1911, Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England; : 42y; Address: 28 Dunham Street

Notes:

Parents of Elizabeth Ward (1867)

In January 2019 someone raised doubts as to who the correct parents of Elizabeth Ward were.
Their suggestion was William Henry Ward and Esther E Ward

I believe that the details below prove that it was Joseph Ward & Ann Denningham (various spellings)

Elizabeth Ward married Thomas Guinnane in 1890 [1890 JFM Chorlton 8C 1013]
Thomas' surname is indexed as Gunan

We know that they had at least one child - Bernard [1900 JFM Chorlton 8C 1005]
(They actually had 4 children)

If we look in the GRO records we find his mother's maiden name confirmed as Ward
Repeating this process, without a forename, we find 3 other children
Joseph (1891)
Lilian (1893)
Herbert (1895)

At this point we have no date of birth for Elizabeth Ward

The next step was to look for Thomas & Elizabeth together in a census.
This is where life becomes interesting.
They should be together in 1891, 1901, 1911
1891 - I have Thomas living with his mother and siblings - he is married but no wife
- As yet I don't have a definitive entry for Elizabeth

1901 - Thomas is still with his mother & siblings, still married but no wife
- Elizabeth is living with two of her sisters. [Both single & called Ward
She has her 3 children with her [Lilian died in 1894]
We now know how old Elizabeth is, 29, making her born about 1872

1911 - I haven't found Thomas in 1911 as yet
- Elizabeth and her 3 children are still living with Elizabeth's 2 sisters
Her age is now given as 42, making her date of birth 1869

1939 - Thomas is now remarried - Sarah Thompson
Thomas gives his date of birth as 26 April 1867 which fits with his GRO entry.
- Elizabeth has died by this time (1913)

So, for the 3 censuses where Thomas and Elizabeth should be together, they aren't.
Given that all 4 children were born between the 1891 census and the 1901 census we could possibly assume that the marriage broke down - but that still wouldn't account for them living apart in 1891.


Anyway, back to finding Elizabeth's parents.
From the 1901 and 1911 censuses we know that she had at least 2 siblings: Catherine and Sarah.
None of the three sisters are particularly consistent with their ages:
Catherine was born between 1861 - 1866
Sarah 1863 - 1870
Elizabeth 1867 - 1872
The next step was to find all 3 sisters together in a census between 1861 and 1881

The 1871 census [RG 10/4002 F103 P23/24] has a Ward family comprising parents Joseph and Ann Ward (both born in Ireland) and 5 daughters including Catherine (1861), Sarah Ann (1863) and Elizabeth (1867).
These dates of birth fit within the range listed above.
The likelihood of there being two such census entries is low.
Also living with the family are a family of relatives called Denningham (spelling varies).
The oldest member of this family, is James aged 75. I am inclined to believe that he is Ann Ward's father.

Looking for GRO births for the children finds similar surnames for their mother: Dinning, Dennigan, Dunnigan.

Note that Thomas & Elizabeth's son, Herbert, gives his next of kin as Sarah Ward (aunt) in 1916 (Service Record) - she is living at 4 Dur(n)ham Street and he gives that as his discharge address. In 1911 they lived at No. 28

Looking at the other person's entry which has Elizabeth's parents as William Henry Ward and Esther E.
Based on the date of birth they have for Henry W (1838), the earliest they could have married was 1854.
Equally, they have Elizabeth born 1869 which gives a likely range for William & Esther's marriage of 1854 -1869.

I have found 11 possibles:-
1854 Esther Ann Lee
1854 Esther Mackey
1855 Esther Slade
1857 Esther Bratt
1860 Esther Holden
1860 Esther Lees
1861 Esther Elizabeth Forrest
1862 Esther Elliott
1864 Esther Nutter
1867 Esther Cordery
1869 Esther Joyce

Unfortunately none of these appear to fit.

Birth:
GRO gives mother's maiden name as DUNNIGAN

Census:
Relation to Head of House: Daughter

Census:
Married (Husband not with her)
Milk Seller at Dairy
Living with sisters and her 3 children

Census:
Living with her 2 sisters
Has her 3 children with her, but not her husband.
Married 20 years, 4 children, 3 living, 1 dead

Died:
This explains why her son Herbert gave her sister as his next of kin when in the army.

Notes:

Thomas and Elizabeth married in 1890 but in the 1891, 1901 and 1911 censuses they are living apart but still listed as married.
Elizabeth has their children with them

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: C 0092a
• Census: 5 Apr 1891, Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England; : 22y; Address: Flat 5, No 4 Court, Crossley Street
• Census: 31 Mar 1901, Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England; : 32y; Address: 26 Owen Street
• Census: 2 Apr 1911, Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England; : 42y; Address: 54 River Street/City Road
• Census: 19 Jun 1921, Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England; : 52y 5m; Address: 5 Rutland Street

Notes:

Census:
Relation to Head of House: Head
Stamper in Warehouse


Census:
Stamp Mender - Warehouse

Census:
Machine Painter
Married 20 years
8 children, 7 living, 1 dead

Census:
Relation to Head of House: Head
Machine Painter - Kendal & Gents

Number of Children (under 16) by age:- (4) 6, 10, 12, 15

James married Annie BIRD on 4 Oct 1890 in Prestwich, Lancashire, England. Annie (daughter of Patrick BIRD) was born on 22 Mar 1872 in Manchester, Lancashire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: C 0092b
• Census: 5 Apr 1891, Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England; : 19y; Address: Flat 5, No 4 Court, Crossley Street
• Census: 31 Mar 1901, Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England; : 29y; Address: 26 Owen Street
• Census: 2 Apr 1911, Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England; : 38y; Address: 54 River Street/City Road
• Census: 19 Jun 1921, Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England; : 48y 7m; Address: 5 Rutland Street
• Census: 29 Sep 1939, Manchester, Lancashire, England; Address: 39 Hollyhey Drive

Notes:

Census:
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Housekeeper

Census:
Married 20 years
8 children, 7 living, 1 dead

Census:
Relation to Head of House: Wife

Number of Children (under 16) by age:- (4) 6, 10, 12, 15


Census:
Born: 1872
Incapacitated
Sons, Francis and Thomas living with her

Notes:

Married:
He is a warehouseman
She couldn't sign her name

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: C 0022aP
• Census: 7 Apr 1861, India; : 25y
• Occupation: 7 Apr 1861, India; Soldier in Indian Army; : 25y
• Census: 2 Apr 1871, In Army
• Census: 3 Apr 1881, Salford, Lancashire, England; : 45y; Address: 55 Taylorson Street
• Occupation: 3 Apr 1881, Salford, Lancashire, England; Factory Hand; : 45y

Notes:

1868 - Private 68th Regiment of Foot, Salford Barracks [Mary Jane's BirthCert.]
See Army Record [WO 97/1977 39876
68th Light Infantry
Rank: Private No. 3097
Enlisted: 21/02/1853 at Rathkealene, Limerick
First Entry: Jan-Mar 1854 Malta [WO 12/766 - Page 21]
Birthday possibly 22.08.1835 - see Army Record of Pay
This gives his age at entry as 17.5 and he gets no pay until
22.08.1853 as he is under age, so assume 22 Aug is 18th B/day
Discharged: 19/01/1875

Census:
In Army - See notes

Census:
Relation to Head of House: Head
Factory Hand

Died:
GRO entry has name as GuiNane

Michael married Mary MORRISSEY on 14 Aug 1866 in Catholic Chapel, Portsea Island, Southampton, England. Mary (daughter of Charles MORRISSEY) was born about 1847 in Country Limerick, Ireland; died between Jan 1907 and Mar 1907 in Barton Upon Irwell, Lancashire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: C 0022bP
• Census: 3 Apr 1881, Salford, Lancashire, England; : 32y; Address: 55 Taylorson Street
• Census: 5 Apr 1891, Salford, Lancashire, England; : 44y; Address: 18 Ruby Street, Salford
• Occupation: 5 Apr 1891, Salford, Lancashire, England; Laundress; : 44y
• Census: 31 Mar 1901, Salford, Lancashire, England; : 52y; Address: 34 Jennings St., Salford

Notes:

Census:
Relation to Head of House: Wife

Census:
Relation to Head of House: Head
Laundress
Widow

Census:
Relation to Head of House: Head
Widow. has children and in-laws with her

Died:
Age 53, Widow in 1901 census

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: C 0090a
• Census: 2 Apr 1871, Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England; : 38y; Address: 23 York Street

Notes:

Census:
Relation to Head of House: Head
Labourer, Paper Works
Married
Also has some other 'Relatives' living with them.
Possibly Ann's father and 2 brothers
Also sister and her son?

Joseph married Ann DENNINGHAM. Ann was born about 1835 in Ireland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: C 0090b
• Census: 2 Apr 1871, Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England; : 36y; Address: 23 York Street

Notes:

Dinning is given as maiden name on daughter's (Catherine) birth using Official GRO index but can't find a suitable marriage.

Believe that the surname should be either Denningham or Dinningham

Census:
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Married
Also has some other 'Relatives' living with them.
Possibly Ann's father and 2 brothers
Also sister and her son?

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: C 0188a

Thomas married Unknown BROWN. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: C 0188b

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: C 0183a